Hybrids Compared to Pure Electric Vehicles
This is a followup to the longer post about "lecterc cars" and it might make more sense if you read that one first.
Klem and I believe that battery electric vehicles - which do not have a gasoline or diesel engine at all-will eventually own the road, inso far as personal cars are concerned , because we think that future models will go far enough on a charge, and sell cheap enough, to take over the automobile market place.
We aren't opposed to hybrids. are opposed to hybrids. to the contrary, we think a well designed and well built hybrid, and especially a plug in hybrids is a great vehicle.Hybrids in our opinion will become more popular year after for a long time to come.to come. We just believe that pure electric cars will eventually outsell hybrids by a wide margin.
The purpose of this post is to explain why we think this is so , as well as make the case for hybrid cars- especially plug in hybrid cars- as opposed to conventional cars.
Klem is going to do the talking, since he enjoys it more than I do.
Now where wuz we last time? We left off talking about batry only cars, what they call bev's for short for batry 'lecterc vehicles.So this will be the first time we have talked about hybrids more than just to mention 'em in passing.
A hybrid has two sep'rit motors to make it go, one that is rightly called an engine , cause it runs on gas or diesel, and the other one ah 'lecterc motor.The 'lecterc motor is there partly to help the gas motor along when you need more power, but mainly it is to help out with the gas mileage. It takes an extra large extra heavy duty batry for the 'lecterc motior to work, and them kind of batry's cost an arm and a leg, which is the main reason hybrid cars cost a lot more than reg'ler cars. Now if the car is made so you can plug her up and charge up that big ole batry, 'n drive on'lecterc power alone, for a pretty good piece, it's ah plug in hybrid ruther than jist a plain old hybrid.
A plain hybrid will run a right smart cheaper on gas than a reg'ler car the same size drove the same way. It gits better mileage for two reasons, mainly. One is that ah hybrid car gen'rilly has a smaller motor than it would otherwise, unless it is a hot rod hybrid. Ah smaller motor always gits better mileage unless there is sump'thin wrong with it, ever thing else equal. The 'lecterc motor kicks in when you floor it and need the extry power, which is why you kin git by with the smaller motor.
The other big reason ah hybrid gits real good mileage, spercially around towm is what they call regenerative braking.what this means is that if you're going down the road at fifty five, and hit the brakes, the lecterc motor is switched by the computer from being a motor to being a generator, and most of the energy you put in getting the car up to fifty five is put back in the batry ruther than heating up the brake rotors 'n pads, which is what happens to that fifty five to zero energy when you hit the brakes in a reg'ler car.
Hybrid cars have some other built in tricks too, like the motor cutting plumb off when you stop at a light, and starting back up so smooth and quick when you let off to the brakes and touch the gas you won't even notice it hap'ning.. So you don't burn no gas idling at the light. 'N most of the newer ones will run at low speeds for a little ways with the gas motor not even firing up, so long as the batry is charged up good , which saves some gas in slow stop and go traffic.But the batry in a plain hybrid ain't big enuf to go very far at all, and not very fast either. A mile or two and fifteen or twenty miles an hour is in the ball park for most of 'em so far.
Now a plug in hybrid is a dif'runt story. Ah plug in has a really big batry. A Chevy Volt is by far and away the most popular plug in hybrid right now, so we will use a Volt for air example. Ah Volt is rated to go about 35 miles on average on a charge. It won't go that far if you run it too hard, or the weather is real hot or real cold and you use the heat or the ac a lot. But on the other hand if you drive it easy at thirty or forty miles an hour on a good road it might go over fifty miles before the gas motor ever has to kick in. So you can drive ah Volt as much as two or there thousand miles on a tank of gas if you don't go very far, say thirty miles or so, any given trip and always plug her in and give her time too git charged all the way up before you drive her agin.
Lot's of people have done it.
Of course charging her up ain't free- but most places you can buy enuf j juice for ah dollar to take you as far as four dollars worth of gas, 'n that adds up real fast if you drive ah Volt ever day about as far as it will go on the batry.
But it still don't quite add up to enuf that most folks will save enough money on gas by buying a Volt to come out ahead unless they plan on keeping it and driving it a long time, and gas goes up some too. But if it turns out that gas goes up a whole lot, anybody that has one could come out smelling like a rose, and they will will prob'ly git a whole lot more for ah Volt at trade in time a few years down the road than they would for a plain gas car if gas is up a dollar or two a gallon, which could happen easy enuf.
Now less take ah look unner the hood 'n the floorboards 'n in the trunk 'n see where the money goes when the factry's build these kind of cars.
Now ah Volt is ah real good car, but there ain't no gitting around the fact that they sell kinda high. The single biggest reason they cost so much is that they have to have all the parts, except a transmission ,that a regular gas car has plus that monster batry 'n that big 'lecterc motor . Beyond that, it also has a large generator built into that is driven by the gas motor, which in turn drives the electric motor that drives the car- anytime that big ole batry is discharged.The rest of that high price comes from guv'mint motors ah needing to git back some of the money they spent designing the car 'n gitting ah factry converted to build 'em.
So just to make it clear I'll say it twice; a Volt runs on it's batry if it is hot 'cause you've charged it up; if it's discharged because you have driven her without plugging her up afterward, she runs on the gas motor which drives the generator which drives the 'lecterc motor that drives the car.
Now our 'pinion, mine and Mac's is that after a few more years, the price of them big old batry's is going to come down to where most people will be satisfied with a pure 'lecterc car 'cause it will run fur enuf and cheap enuf to satisfy 'em.
Ya got to r'member that a pure 'lecterc car don't need no gas motor at all, an it don't need no transmission, neither, 'n them is the two most 'spensive parts about a car that are apt to need fixing and servicing.
'Lecterc motors er dirt cheap compared to gas motors 'n all the stuff that has to be there for ah gas motors to run, from the radiator up at the front bumper to the tail pipe out to the back bumper.
Take off what you save by doing away with the gas motor 'n the transmission 'n a bev ought to sell cheap,'n it would to ' cept for two problems.That big ole batry still costs ah arm and a leg an the car kumpnies is still paying off all the money that it costed them to learn how to build a good batry powered car, and paying off the money it costed to build the factry's they need to build the batry's and the 'lecterc cars.
If they had of just stared making plain old gas 'n diesel motors ten or fifteen years ago, they would cost so much that nobody but a rich man could afford a car ah tall.But they been making 'em a over a hunnert years now, 'bn in that hunnert years they have learnt how to make 'em cheap so long as they make a whole lot of 'em.
This is what yer call "economies of scale" in perfesser talk. All it means in plain 'Merican talk fer an 'zample is like this. If you spend ten dollars a day to lease ah car jiist to have it a settin' there ready to go, and you don't drive it but five miles ah day, it costs you two dollars a mile before you even put in some gas.
But if you drive her fifty miles a day, and put in ten dollars worth of gas, then your cost ah mile drops down to to forty cents a mile. Car factry's 'n bartry factry's aint cheap, 'n they gotta get ah big price for what come's out of 'em till the git the volumes up, 'n that's goin' ter take a few years yit.
Batry's are ah goin' to git cheap in ah few years as shore as shooting. That's what always hap'ns when people starts buy'n a whole lot of anythang that comes out of a factry by the thousand n tens of thousands.
Take fer 'zample ah double over head cam fuel injected turbo charged four valve motor. Thirty years ago a three hunnert horsepower three liter motor like that costed twice more than a whole car costs these days- with ah double over head cam fuel injected three liter three hunnert horsepower motor standard equipment!.the reason for it being so high back then is r that it was a very low volume motor for a top end hot rod type of car.These days it's what they stuff under the hood of most any junior sized hot rod.
N' when them batry's git cheap enuf, an they put out twice what they do now for the same size 'n weight, most people are going to be plumb satisfied with ah new BEV considering how cheap it will be to run it 'n keep it up.I can't say this often enuf or loud enuf to hurt my case- ah pure 'lecterc car that is well made is going to be a keep it till you're plumb sick of looking at it car.
But in the mean time it might pa ya to look inter gitting a car like ah Volt, cause it will run dirt cheap if it suits yer driving pattern, 'n it might easy outlast two ordinary cars'n heres the reason why.Ask any good mechanic, or anybody fer that matter that knows a whole lot about cars, and he will tell you that short trips and cold starts are car killers.if you havew a choice between buying two cars exactly alike in every way except one has fifty thousand miles of 'round town short trips on it, and the other one has a hunnert thousand miles of long open road commuting trips on it, the car with the hunnert thousand miles is by a long shot the best deal- if you are going to keep it and drive it till it is wore out.
Now this don't seem reasonable until you take a good look at how a car gits wore out and starts nickeling and diming ya to death a few hunnnert bucks at a pop for repairs.
So let's just take that look.First thing ya do is open the door-once for a two mile trip, once for a thirty mile commute.That's fifteen times as much waer 'n tear on the guts of the door in one trip. Then ya buckle up 'n start the motor- fifteen times as much wear an tear on the starter n the ignition switch.Ya start 'n stop 'n speed up n slow down a half a dozen times in that two miles 'n the transmission has to change thru the gears a half a dozen times 'n ya hit the brakes the same six times. Now a long commute will still have some starts 'n stops and speeding up 'n slowing down at both ends of of it, but the biggest part of the commute is not putting hardly an wear 'n tear at all on the car, and the wear and tear per mile is a whole lot less.Changing gears is what wears out a transmission, not miles. Using them is what wears out brakes.Tires will last two or three times as long on the open road as they will in town.
Now there ain't no real easy way to ''xplain why short trips is so hard on gas, n diesel motors, but i'll do the best I can.The oil don't work it's best till it gits hot.'N none of the hunnerts of parts in a gas motor that fit closer together than the thickness of a hair fits exactly right till they git hot too- metal parts git bigger when they heat up'n shrink when they cool off.When the fit ain't right, it's like a shoe that don't hit- it'll put a blister on yer foot. That bad fit fit on the parts of a cold motor wears 'em out real quick.Depending on who you talk to, ah mechainic er an engineer will tell you that a cold car motor wears out from four or five times on up to ten times as as fast as ah hot motor.
Now ah 'pure 'lecterc car ain't got no transmission, an ah 'lecterc motor an ain't got hunnerts of parts that are fitted as close as the thickness of a hair and ah whizzin' around an ah pounding up and down thousand uv times a minute, all uv 'em kept from siezing up by a few drops of oil spread so thin you can't even see it edge on with yer eyes- you can't see ah five thousandths of an inch gap between tow parts. Ah cold start don't put no extra wear on ah'lecterc motor, 'n as i've said before, it's damn near impossible to wear out ah 'lecterc motor.
Now if yer ketch on quick, you already seen why ahVolt might easy outlast two reg'ler cars- 'xept for that big ole question mark beside uv that big ole batry. It iain't got no transmission to go bad. 'N the gas motor don't even fire up most times if you go less than thirty miles or so 'n you keep her charged up 'tween trips.So you could easy put a hundred thousand miles, or two hunnert thousand, or even more, on a Volt, 'n still have a gas motor that ain't hardly got no miles on it at all.N' miles , specially cold miles, is what wears out a motor, not time. Yer Italian loafers don't wear out in yer closet when you ain't wearing 'em , an yer Volt gas motor ain't wearing out under yer hood when it's jist along fer the 'lecterc ride.
Now maybe that batry in yer Volt won't take you but fifteen or twenty miles when it is finally wore out- but thats still fifteen er twenty gas free miles, 'n yer gas motor ain't gonna be wore out! 'N unless me 'n Mac misses our guess real bad, by the batry is wore out, a new batry will be cheap enuf , n gas will be high enuf you won't mind having to git a new bartry put in, knowing yer Volt will still be good fer another ten years of no transmission 'n no likely gas motor motor trouble 'n near no gas bill driving.
Now this 'bout all ah got to say fer now bout 'lecterc cars , 'xcept for one er two last thangs.It pxxxxd me off so bad when the guv'mint bailed out guv'mint motors I swore I'd never own anuther guvmint motors car er truck. I'm still mad 'bout it, but I'll probly git over it in time to buy me a second hand Volt one of these days .
'N I'm not sayin ah Volt is any better than a whole o' lot of other plug in hybrid cars you can buy right now, or will be able to buy pretty soon.It's jist a handy 'xample.
Course I ain't mad about the four percent loan the guvmint gimme to buy my farm, ner the lake they paid for fer me to fish in, ner the tax write off the give me that put that tricked out f250 in my driveway.'N it don't hurt my feelin's none that they send me a soil bank check fer not farming most uv my place neither, cause to tell ya the truce th, I'd ruther rent some the rest the land out 'n drive my truck 'n farm the place by filling out some more applerkashins at the aggercultur dept fer more free money ta fix the place up right.I do like to git out there on the tractor one in a while but not ever day no more.
'N it don't hurt my feelin's none that the county is thinking 'bout giving me a property tax''xemtptshin if I promise not ter subdivide the place, ,cause I'm on my own three hunnert acres uv paradise, 'n I ain't even thinking about livin' no where else anyway.
Fair is fair, ain't it? If you can't whup 'em , ya need to think about joinen' up with 'em.